If conservatives had their way with letting businesses do anything they want – should the worst be expected?
For example if conservatives including not just the republicans, but especially the libertarians and the government wasn’t regulating oil companies and other businesses anymore – that reminds me of days of the industrial revolution. In those days there was thousands and thousands of people who died from work related injuries and no overtime pay but employers nonetheless forced people to work for overtime and many employers still on paid for full time weekly wages. In other words, imagine working at a very dangerous job where someone was forced to work 100 hours a week and was just paid for working 40 hours. Then imagine no health care insurance and someone got seriously hurt on the job and they died because their employer had no safety standards, couldn’t get medical attention because they’re employer refused to have medical insurance – does that sound insane?
Then as bad as that sounds, imagine to top that off no safety regulations on water, food and medicine – is that brain dead to have such policies?
To make it worse imagine no regulations on banks and they demanded immediate payment exactly on a due date and if a homeowner with a car loan doesn’t pay on the exact due date that banks just came and repossessed everyone’s homes and cars who’s late on their house and car payments?
Well I would say if there was the notion that it would never be that bad – think back to times when there was no regulations, such as during the days of the industrial revolution and other past times.
People might say the republicans aren’t that bad now, but there is an economic philosophy called Laissez Faire that conservatives like to live by which is at least calling for minimal or few regulations and at worst especially concerning the libertarians – Laissez Faire economic philosophies at it’s worse is NO REGULATION AT ALL. Yes, there are people who believe that extreme Laissez Faire economic philosophies is what should be in place and not just liberatarians, but many republicans do as well.
Some people think it would never get that extreme again, but there are people who want that which I’ve seen in political forums saying this.
Imagine the past times where this was the case and if people who want such times want times like those again.
This is why I asked if conservatives had their way with letting businesses do anything they want – should the worst be expected?
For example –
Should people expect that they won’t get to keep jobs for long because employers are free to lay off and fire workers for any reason including ridiculous whims they entertain or people refusing to work overtime when employers demand they work for the same pay as 40 hours? (No I’m not talking about salary pay)
Should people expect that they could die from work related injuries on on the job and that it’s just a fact of life they have to expect?
Should women at work have to expect that they could be sexually harrassed on the job and worse from their bosses or other employees and that they have to take it or lose their job – no matter what job they work at?
Should people expect to have nothing but dangerous food and drink dangerous water besides other dangerous fluids to consume, because of no laws and regulations are in place to protect people from food and drink being contaminated?
Should kids expect to build oil castles instead of sand castles on the beach?
Should people expect that they could die from medicine or from medical treatment because doctors and hospitals don’t have to be accountable anymore because the conservatives took off all the regulations on that too?
And the most simple question is – should people expect everyday of their life to be like playing russian roulette unless they happen to be wealthy and can afford to have safety at work, good health, oil free beaches, safe food and water, etc?
I asked this also because if certain people had their way it could be that bad.
So that’s why I ask – is conservative extremists getting their way and thus are then allowed to do away with all the regulations – is it worth all the suffering such philosophies and policies would bring?
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Did you really think anyone would read all that?
Letting private business operate however they wish is not only ethical but the most correct thing to do. In 1900? No, probably not. But it’s 2010 and in our media/consumer driven economy those with the spending dollars hold ALL the power.
Don’t like what a business is doing? Organize a boycott. As soon as it affects their bottom line, they’ll change. It’s simple.
Government only screws things up. They forced BP out into deep waters. They contribute to unemployment with minimum wage laws. They pass law after law that mandates orders to business but they make sure that they are exempt from (the polygraph law is just one example.)
Get business out of areas that they are not Constitutionally charged to handle.
P.S. "Should people expect that they won’t get to keep jobs for long because employers are free to lay off and fire workers for any reason including ridiculous whims they entertain or people refusing to work overtime when employers demand they work for the same pay as 40 hours? (No I’m not talking about salary pay)"
- Minnesota is just one state where this is ALREADY IN PLACE. Minnesota is an "at will" state meaning that businesses DO NOT NEED A REASON TO FIRE WORKERS. And…guess what. They’re doing just fine.
what exactly is your question? Companies ought to be regulated yes, but they should not be controlled by the government. I have never seen any conservative that wanted to do away with all regulation and neither have you.
Oh and I find that I could get killed going to work or just stepping out of my home, I will not blame a company for what i choose to do.
u bet
Nobody wants businesses to be unregulated, just not over-regulated to the point that they cannot function.
The oil industry IS regulated. The feds weren’t doing their jobs and Obama was perfectly okay with that or he wouldn’t have hired a BP exec to pass out safety awards to BP instead of doing her job and regulating BP!
Do us all a favor and stop buying into the two party system sham. Democrats and Republicans are one and the same.
Click on a q and read a book.
I’m just going with no. We have plenty of bad things happening with many regulations.
This q is so irrelevant. You’re addressing an extreme no one alive has seen in the US.
Yes just like we had to wait for a spill big enough for the free market to create demand for safer drilling equipment. Or like we have to wait for one kid to get harmed before lead paint barbie can be stopped. Too reactive.
You mean like job growth and strong economy?
Since we are in the land of generalization and hyperbole. Why are liberals unable to ask a question without ASSuming?
Neither Republicans nor Libertarians say that the government should not regulate businesses you moron.
their way seems to be let the corporations do what they want then attack Obama for not cleaning up the mess the corporations made fast enough.
We don’t want no government, we want government to protect liberty and enforce contracts. You are making a slippery slope assumption that we would abolish the state, which is an absurd and uninformed assumption to make.
We call for deregulation because it will increase competition. Barriers to entry set up by the government, which include patents and copyright laws, only work against market forces and hand huge business monopolistic markets. The government tries to be benign with regulations but that isn’t how reality is. Did you know that an oil company in the U.S cannot do one thing without asking the government first? That included BP. The cronies working at the MMS gave BP the okay to begin drilling after they inspected the rig and found that nothing was wrong. So while BP is at fault and needs to pay for damages, isn’t the MMS also partly at fault for letting them drill anyway?
Government is our biggest issue. Once it grows it is nearly impossible to shrink it because it may initially look bad to do so. We need a balanced budget which would cause us to make cuts. Welfare recipients would be irate and so would some liberals. Both parties recognize that there will be instances in which we need to scale the government back (Keynes also knew this and his model teaches us this) but neither party wants to be the one to do it because of the fear of a backlash from those taking from the government. What happens when the markets force it to happen, though? What happens when the Federal Reserve ruins the dollar? What happens when Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid go broke? Our government will then be forced to address the problem. Wouldn’t it be better to address these issues now while no one is suffering? That’s what conservatives want to do.
tl;dr (don’t have much time)
But in my world government wouldn’t over regulate OR promote certain businesses. If a company got large, other companies would start competing with it, driving prices down and quality up. If a company damaged someone’s property (like with an oil spill) they would be fully responsible. The government wouldn’t cap how much they would be responsible for. Unhindered competition along with being fully responsible for your actions would promote prosperity, as free men will always create better livings for themselves.